Kosta Koufos

Discussion in 'Personnel moves' started by upinsmoke, Jun 19, 2017.

  1. upinsmoke

    upinsmoke Well-Known Member

    Everyone is familiar with Kosta and his strengths and weaknesses. I think in general the consensus is his value to us is as an example to the younger guys and especially Papagiannis. I think there is value to that but my question is how much is that worth to us and does he have a future with the team? He's currently 28yrs old and has a opt out after this season. I think we should consider trying to get some value for him this week. Thoughts...
  2. pshn80

    pshn80 Well-Known Member

    He's worth more to us here than gone. Finding a replacement would be tougher than we think. However, it is true that pastures on the other side seem greener. Get a good vet to replace him then maybe. For me, I'd keep him.
  3. Jimbob

    Jimbob Well-Known Member

    We need a couple quality vets, but there's a couple things in play. We might draft a big like Collins, if that's the case then I'd imagine Kosta would opt out at the end of he year. Tough call with Kosta, maybe hes the trade chip needed to move up from the 10 spot and assure a SF to go with our PG.
  4. Capt. Factorial

    Capt. Factorial Cantry Member Staff Member Contributor

    Kosta does have value to us as one of our few veterans. I wouldn't really be shopping him if I were in charge. Does he opt out after this year? Seems like a decent chance of that, but in the meantime he's around for a year and he's the exact kind of guy we want to have around in the clubhouse. If somebody makes a great offer, then we'd have to consider it, but we're looking at a decent chance that over half the team is going to be first and second-year players this upcoming season. Do we want another rookie in that mix at the expense of Kosta? I guess it would depend on who is on the board, but I won't be upset if we don't move him, that's for sure.
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  5. kingsboi

    kingsboi Well-Known Member

    if the Kings draft a big at 10 then I can see Kosta getting shipped out along with one of the SG's on the team
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  6. ockingsfan

    ockingsfan Well-Known Member

    If we can you use him as a trade chip to move up from #10 to #7, I would do it in a heartbeat.

    If we draft Tatum at #5 and Fox is still on the board at #7 (or the other way around), I would package KK with the #1o and move up to get #7. We may have to take a salary dump of Pekovic's contract too.

    If we can somehow get Tatum and Fox in this draft, that would be a home run for the Kings :)
  7. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias Well-Known Member

    He's got trade value for sure, his deal is a bargain compared to some of the recent overpays we've seen the last 2 summers (Especially Joakim Noah).

    I hope he stays though, solid player, solid contract. Not much to complain about IMO. Especially with Papa being groomed, you'd hope Kosta can hold down the backup spot til he's ready.
  8. Čarolija

    Čarolija Well-Known Member

    I like Kosta a lot. I think he is a pro's pro. Works his backside off, plays hard, sets a great example for youngsters and is a great locker room guy. I especially like the mentoring that he provides Papagiannis....that Greek connection is under-rated a bit. Kings fans would have seen how what Vlade did for Peja. Kosta is doing a similar thing for Giorgios.

    Having said all that, if Kings draft a big at 10 as it seems likely unless there are moves, then Kosta as an expiring contract becomes a trade chip that Kings need to cash in on before the deadline. For a play off team that is looking to add a solid big man to their roster, Kosta is worth a first round pick if he gets them over the hump. I would love to keep him but I am sure he will want to play and the Kings already have 3 young bigs they need to develop with playing time next season. While big Papa is still possibly a season away from being a dependable contributor in meaningful NBA games, he still need some playing time at the NBA level to keep developing.
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  9. gunks

    gunks Well-Known Member

    That's what I'm thinking.

    If we end up with Isaac, or Collins at 10, I think we have to move Kosta to open up playing time.

    He's a good player, good mentor, but I think experience for the young bigs would be more valuable for where this team is currently at.
  10. Double-K

    Double-K Well-Known Member

    Plus I think he's only making somewhere around 8 mil a year. Hard to go out and find good vets with that price tag.
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  11. lwc

    lwc Well-Known Member

    Having this conversation about a player who was an important player for years on a solid mid-tier playoff team really speaks to the work Vlade has done in a couple of seasons.

    Four or five years ago would we have ever dreamed of trading a player like Kosta Koufos when the Kings were floundering with bigs like Jason Thompson, Ryan Hollins and others?

    I agree with what others have mentioned in that I highly value Kosta Koufos as a player and mentor but if he is more valuable to the Kings as a trade asset to get a next level potential player, then I wish him well.
  12. Iced Espresso

    Iced Espresso Well-Known Member

    Kosta is the perfect sort of guy with his salary to send out to someone else and eat some bad salary for a perk.

    Don't get attached to guys who are not really in our long term plans.

    Cash in now.
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  13. upinsmoke

    upinsmoke Well-Known Member

    That's how I handle my business ventures. I'm a seller not a collector and I don't get overly attached to my assets. Of course Pro hoop is different but some principles transfer over but not all.
  14. Iced Espresso

    Iced Espresso Well-Known Member

    See that Russell trade to get out of Mozgov's contract?

    We've got Kosta right here as a salary filler, and cap space...

    Could be something out there on draft night.
  15. upinsmoke

    upinsmoke Well-Known Member

    What do you think is brewing?
  16. Iced Espresso

    Iced Espresso Well-Known Member

    Keep an eye on the Portland 15, 20, 26 and salary to shed
    Rockets have Denver and Portland's seconds.

    But anyone that's involved in a larger trade and needs to send away salary.

    Vlade worked out a lot of people, makes me wonder if he's looking to try and gobble up some second rounders.

    If nothing happens on draft night, well I hope we gut some futures once FA starts.
  17. funkykingston

    funkykingston Well-Known Member

    More than that we have Afflalo's $12.5 M contract that can magically turn into $1.5 M.
  18. Iced Espresso

    Iced Espresso Well-Known Member

    Forgot about that one too.

    Yeah we should be in some sort of side deal draft night.

    Every little asset helps, ideally we get something that turns out be much more down the road than would initially be expected.
  19. upinsmoke

    upinsmoke Well-Known Member

    Portland is going to be all over that as the moment of truth nears. Oh and BTW BK now has much less cap space and I think they are going to take a swing at a FA or 2.
  20. Jkbiker

    Jkbiker Well-Known Member

    Afflalo's contract can only work this week! Please use it to get a draft pick from Portland, Harkless and a pick please!!!!!

    I really hope Afflalo does not go away for nothing except more cap space? Vlade get us something please!!!!!
  21. Jkbiker

    Jkbiker Well-Known Member

    So clippers offered Jordan to the Suns for #4 pick and chandler , Suns said no

    What about our 10 pick and 34 pick and Koufos for Jordan

    and noo I would not offer the #5
  22. Iced Espresso

    Iced Espresso Well-Known Member

    Houston is shopping Beverly

    What if we sent Kosta and AA to Portland.

    We get the 20, Beverly and bad salary like Leonard

    Houston picks up the 26 and sends one of their seconds back to Portland?

    We'd have a budget solid pg on the books that would help with the Leonard loot. We could stretch Leonard on his last year of his deal later.
  23. Jkbiker

    Jkbiker Well-Known Member

    And then get a pick for Harkless from Portland
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    Nightfall Active Member

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